table repair help needed

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     hi guys i generally live over at the wood turning section but today i have a slight problem with furniture...

my mum gave me one of those mass produced itallian tables with all the patterned inlay but managed to drag the side of it along the pavement when she moved it..... i have repaired the minor scratches on the top which now looks as good as it should using rustins french polish and linseed oil....

on the edges where mum (bless her ) dragged it there were deep scores that went into the wood below.. i have sanded them out really well and feathered the finish..

but when it comes to colouring and finishing i can only do one or the other if i colour first thes colour comes off when i polish if i polish first the polish wont take the colour

if somebody can shed some light on this for me i would be grateful.. if i can i will post some pics to show the extent

thanks in advance

chris

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woodscavenger1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Craftsman Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Location: kent uk Online Status: Offline Posts: 388	Quote Reply Topic: table repair help needed Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 6:31pm
	hi guys i generally live over at the wood turning section but today i have a slight problem with furniture... my mum gave me one of those mass produced itallian tables with all the patterned inlay but managed to drag the side of it along the pavement when she moved it..... i have repaired the minor scratches on the top which now looks as good as it should using rustins french polish and linseed oil.... on the edges where mum (bless her ) dragged it there were deep scores that went into the wood below.. i have sanded them out really well and feathered the finish.. but when it comes to colouring and finishing i can only do one or the other if i colour first thes colour comes off when i polish if i polish first the polish wont take the colour if somebody can shed some light on this for me i would be grateful.. if i can i will post some pics to show the extent thanks in advance chris

Derek Jones Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Magazine Staff F & C Editor Joined: 05 Oct 2009 Online Status: Offline Posts: 106	Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:09pm
	Hi Chris If you could post a pic that would help. Sounds like you're on the right track though. French polish (alcohol based) will remove any spirit based stain unless applied gently with a brush. Ideally you want to put a sealer over the stain (shellac sanding sealer) to fix it but for touching up small areas it's not crucial. You will find it easier if you use an oil stain or water based one. Spirit stains can be added to French polish to adjust the colour as well but use sparingly. Michael Huntley has been dealing with this very subject in the last couple of F&Cs. Have a look under Techniques on this Home Page for one of them. But as I say, a pic would help. Derek

Sal Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Apprentice Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:46pm
	Spray it!!! I hear a big gasp from all the craftsmen. After all, the Italians have sprayed it to death. You can colour it and use an aersol lacquer over it- bingo!

P Grogan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Veteran Craftsman Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: S of France Online Status: Offline Posts: 2063	Quote Reply Posted: 08 Feb 2010 at 8:51pm
	Hi Chris, If the scratches are really deep you can use shellac bars see the link. You melt them into the scratch or hole; note they are NOT wax they are solid shellac and so will take sanding down to really fine and French polish as well as oils and friction polishes. You can blend colours to make others and you can shape it to follow contours using an iron or soldering iron, I tend to heat the end of a 10cm metal rule and push it into the repair area. Because its not wax it doesn't interfere with any of the finishes that I know of. http://www.liberon.co.uk/gallery_files/site/2136/7653/14447.pdf Look at the shellac filler sticks PG Edited by P Grogan - 08 Feb 2010 at 8:53pm

woodscavenger1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Craftsman Joined: 22 Jan 2010 Location: kent uk Online Status: Offline Posts: 388	Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 2:08pm
	thanks guys i really appreciate the advice and as soon as i have time i will post before and afters for your corrections and improvements.... well i am only a beginner you know cheers again chris